Everyday Systems

start 178.2 on 2/1/13

now 157. on 1/7/13

21.2 lost in 6 months.

I feel officially cured of my desire to overeat. long may it stay this way .

Today 163.2

That's 2.2 in the right direction in April

And herein lies the beauty of nos.
It's not that weight loss( calorie restricted ) diets don't "work" .

They do.

It's just that the strategies most of them employ to restrict caloric intake are not sustainable.

Conventional diets fail long term for behavioural, not physiological reasons.

Nos ...

I know a man who has maintained a healthy slim weight for over 40 years on ONE meal a day

Yes. I have gravitated towards 2 meals.
Lunch and dinner.

Nos at no point specifies number of meals

For me the problem with calorie counting is it puts things the wrong way round.

By the end of the day, when counting calories ( or WW points ) I would be thinking " I have 250 calories "left". What can I have ?" and then spend ages deliberating whether to blow it on a glass of wine or some ...

First of the month weigh in as promised


start weight on 2/1/13 178.2
current weight 165.4 ( 3.6 pounds lost in Feb)

Reinhart, thank you

Totally agree with oolala about not talking about it to anyone.
That sort of turns it into "yet another diet ".

Of course any way of eating (including noS) is a "diet" but noS is not a diet in the conventional sense of the word. It's a kind of non diet !

Talking about the diet you are "on" ( which ...

leafy_greens wrote:Pushing snacks on children - It's all about placating your children so they don't cause a scene. If they're forcing something down, they're distracted and less likely to yell, cry, wiggle, hit anyone, or run off.

Couldn't agree more.

thanks for the weigh in averaging tips,but I want to step on the scales as infrequently as possible , namely the first of the month.

Start weight 2/1/13 178.2
today 169

9 pounds lost.

Thank you Reinhart for the gentle shove in the direction of sanity

hee hee, never any problem with pudding going to waste in our house till recently either

Why not next time just make half or even a third quantities of the pudding ?

and it's lack of portion control that has got us all into this fix in the first place

brightangel and heddi have pointed out some truths, with wisdom and kindness.
Kathleen, I wish you peace

I've been giving noS some thought - but not too much , because therein lies the madness - and I think it is a bit like a wayward child's behaviour and happiness improving if they are given firm boundaries.

And actually noS boundaries are firm but not onerous.

oolala, thank you for that. I do relate.

20 days in and I feel calmer, happier already. I don't know which came first - feeling happier and calmer and therefore being ready to face my eating demons, or facing up to them and adopting the eminently sensible structure of noS is making me feel calmer ...

Finallyfull, you make excellent points.

exactly , Jonas.
It's the extensive day long buffet that worries me regards lifetime habits.
Especially followed by the parental head scratching that happens when the kiddie ( inevitably ) becomes fussy around mealtimes.

sinnie, may I ask, what height are you?

Jonas ( what a great name) glad I am not alone in my view. I realise posting stuff about how people raise children can be a sensitive topic.

Delayed gratification is an important principle( and in the case of food it directly impacts one's health ) and it's never too early to learn it .

This snacking thing starts young doesn't it?

What's with the modern parenting habit of plying toddlers with a constant stream of snacks and drinks?

When did this start?

It was not the norm in my childhood. I see parents everywhere (including CHURCH ) rummaging around in bags for little ...

Thanks everyone for the kind comments about my mum.

She left a great legacy - growing up we only ever ate healthy food prepared from scratch. And snacking between meals was not on!

Like many others I find the hours between dinner and bedtime the most challenging as this is when the fat beast within traditionally wants to scarf down all the tasty extras. Especially when everyone else has gone to bed. I do enjoy a solo foodfest.

BUT I SHALL RESIST....

I go to bed feeling VERY ...

my goodness, what lovely welcomes. You really are a kind , civilised lot!

I look forward to sharing my quest for slimness. Because that, frankly, is my goal. I absolutely will not be happy with just more healthy eating patterns/ attitude towards food if I don't shrink.A lot.

I'm in no rush ...

My name is Jasper and I am a slothful glutton.

Or a genetically hospitable person who hates sport and likes to cook and eat for friends and potter around at home. Same thing, really . That's my release from being a worn out wreck with a difficult and responsible job and three small children.

For ...

nice work , ironchef. I found your check in thread. It's sane and inspiring.

over43, any more of those ridiculous stereotypes and I will come after you in my kilt and thump you over the head with my bagpipes.

Ironchef, I can't thank you enough for that - your first paragraph , about maybe it's BECAUSE I am holding down a responsible job and raising 3 kids. I have honestly never considered that might be a factor , and I have given this a LOT of thought. I think you might be on to something with the idea ...

thanks nicest, I appreciate you joining the discussion. I have heard that perspective before and I am sure it's part of it.


However if I look at my closest ten friends , NONE of them are fat, only me. I'd say over half of them have to make a conscious effort to stay slim, but the point is they ...

Well I have been following noS for a grand total of six days and after years of counting I know the calorific value of every single food .
It's tempting to do a mental count - but I do think if I am to follow the true spirit of noS I need to learn to ditch that way of thinking. It hasn't worked ...

Why do you log all your food for the day? Isn't that the start of the problem?
The beauty of noS is you can forget all that :)

I can see how tempting it is to find out the calorie total, having logged it. There is nothing actualy wrong with doing that if it helps you stay on course , but for you ...

thanks you one and all. What wonderful considered replies.

First , can I state clearly, I am NOT in any way knocking NoS as a diet, far from it. It is almost genius in its simplicity.

My lament was centred around the fact that fatties like me( going by the check in threads ) appear to not even be ...

I discovered this site last week.
I am giving it my best shot.
I have been reading many of the daily check in threads and am most discouraged. Hardly anyone on these threads has lost weight.

The general tendency is to start enthusiastically, then fail . then start again. Then fail again.

Is ...

Thanks for all the views so far.

I should rephrase my first question.
Previous diets have NOT failed. They have all succeeded , pretty well actually. But they have not been sustainable , or rather , I have not been able to sustain them or settle back into a non disordered eating pattern.

What ...

...to distinguish one's nosdiet journey from all previous ( failed ) diets?

This is my fist visit here and I have followed the plan for a day and graded myself a resounding success.
I've had a resounding success with every other diet I have tried . At least for the first few weeks, until I fail.

I ...