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TUK

I feel a lesser amount of stress. Although I am currently gaining weight, I know that my way of eating moderately is right. Or soon will be.

TUK

r.jean wrote:We were also taught to clean our plates. I still have a hard time leaving food on my plate.

I was too. Yet, the thinnest girls I've seen eat don't hesitate to leave things in their plate if they are full, or even if it does not suit their taste.

TUK

oolala53 wrote:If TUK is drinking less, someone must be guzzling...

I guess so. Overeating is not the only moderation/dependency problem in the world

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That would be "le plafond de verres" :wink:

So much for Google Translate.

:)

You typed "cieling" instead of "ceiling", I guess. I don't have access to Google Translate where I am, but I guess if you ask it for "glass ceiling", it will answer "plafond de verre" (without s), which (pun ...

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Lollingsgrad wrote:Plus I like tuna.

You can't EVER beat me on canned tuna. I'm one of the reasons the population of tuna fish in the Atlantic Ocean is decreasing.

Well... to make a less pointless reply...

Protein ought to help you build muscle. Reducing grain ought to make you lose fat.

TUK

Vanilla NoS here too. With an extra discipline exercice of eating much fruits and veggies.

Planning snacks is a mod I am considering for S-days (which tend to go overboard too often) But not for N-days. I seldom feel that I am full after my meals.

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Vive le cieling verre

That would be "le plafond de verres" :wink:

I (personally) drink much less than that, but I think that's about right. Assuming that most average people don't drink during lunchtime when they're working, one glass of pastis (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pastis) and one to ...

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FAILURE yesterday on shovelglove as well. Waking up late, I did not want to arrive too late at work so I skipped shovelglove in the morning, intending to do it in the evening. Did not. Watched Bones' Season 6 ending instead...

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Hello snapdragon,

Yes you're right. Peaches we get here taste awesome!

Okay, so. Here is the current situation.

My latest weigh-in was on Staurday, and read 96.5kg, which is 213#.
That's +11# with regards to last month, and +13# overall.

Time to take measures! I decided to eat more fruit and ...

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Okay. This week has been full SUCCESS up to now, EXCEPT for two things :
- I had a bigger dinner yesterday, with some sweets (milka chocolate and an ice cream) So NoS on Thursday is a FAILURE . Today is a yellow day, but I intend only to indulge during the dinner. I'm taking my wife out for our ...

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Hello, welcome aboard!

TUK

Congratulations, eschano, Over43! (et al.) It's a great achievement!

On January 2nd this year, I decided to quit coffee. The resulting headache made it a no-go on the 3rd of January. Ever since, I have drunk less than 3 cups of coffee a day. (One at breakfast and two social coffees with coworkers ...

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Over43 wrote:My healthy meal is an Egg McMuffin and an orange juice in the morning.

Fair enough

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Have a look at Reinhard's progress between 2002 and 2004. In two years, he got really beefy.

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I started shovelgove one week ago, with a 9# sladgehammer. In a previous attempt earlier this year, I was using 10# weights that are lying around in my house.

This is definitely different, and I like the sledgehammer better, because you make way more efforts not harming your back, and make slower ...

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ironchef wrote:and my mother saying not to snack "don't spoil your dinner".

Thank your mother for me. I'll keep "Don't spoil your dinner" handy. Spoiling my dinner with snacks is a recurring problem during S-days.

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My three-week vacation is over. Finally, I'll get back to the comforting structure of my day job.

I got some FAILURE s during these three weeks. The most recent was on Friday. I woke up early, took my N-day breakfast as usual, except for one tiny detail: The only coffee pack available was ...

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Using the meal you described above, most Americans would have a 10" or 10Â½" (or larger!) plate filled to overflowing. Many No-Sers might get all of it on the same size plate by having smaller portions, but many would likely omit cheese, bread and fruit because it wouldn't fit on one plate ...

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TUK, I say go ahead and use a larger plate, at least for a few months.

Actually, sometimes the 7" plate is satisfying, sometimes it's not. When I feel I'm more hungry than usual, I use the 9" plate. That's about twice a week. On evenings. (I wonder if the plates they use at my work are not even 6 ...

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Okay, so given all your input, I can say that French plates are indeed about one to two inches smaller in diameter than American plates. Indeed, our big decorated plates are 9" in diameter, with 3" of decorated rim.

No wonder I feel unsatisfied with barely filling a 7" plate on a reguar basis.

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And, if I may boldly say, Paris is not a reference for France. Paris is the capital. It is another world. Only one sixth of the French population lives there, and yet, one sixth of the population is massed there.

In Paris, when you rent an apartment, you should be happy to be an engineer and ...

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oolala53 wrote:smaller plates, such as luncheon plates. I use my big ones for dinner.

What I found on the net says that luncheon plates are about 8.5" to 9.5". What size are yours, oolala ?

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Did you mean patient people? Or did you mean you would be too impatient to bake such a cake, but would go buy it instead? Or just eat other smaller sweets?

That's exactly what I meant by "impatient". If we want something to eat, baking a cake is too long and we want it NOW, so we go buy some ice ...

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However, the vast majority of people I know would probably benefit from introducing a habit of walking (or other light exercise) 30 minutes on most days, rather than worry too much about whether they are doing quality exercise only a few times a week. I include myself in that.

I include myself ...

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I've also read that if you plan on baking a cake, for instance, you can buy exactly the amounts of everything you need to make the cake. You don't have extra flour, sugar, and so on so you can't decide to bake cookies, too.

I don't know if you're talking about France, but my experience is ...

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Oops, sorry for my misunderstanding. It's common sense, of course.

Yes. Standard ovens you find in France fit in 60cm wide furniture. Wider ones are part of wide stoves. ("pianos") And they are rather seldom.

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You don't break NoS by missing a meal, especially if it's inadvertantly, and especially if you did not overeat on the next meal as a consequence of it. It can happen, and it is a sign that you're getting healthy habits. Just don't keep "skip lunch" as a beneficial thing to do consciously. Keep your ...

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When I started No-S, I completely missed the one plate rule. I took "seconds" to actually mean seconds -- more than one serving. So I ate one serving of whatever was being served, whether or not it was on one plate. By the time I realized that there was a one-plate rule, I couldn't see a reason to ...

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And, if I may boldly say, Paris is not a reference for France. Paris is the capital. It is another world. Only one sixth of the French population lives there, and yet, one sixth of the population is massed there.

In Paris, when you rent an apartment, you should be happy to be an engineer and afford ...

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The French guy is giving his two cents.

Indeed, in France, combined refrigerators and freezers are most of the time on top of one another. That's because appliances are designed to fit in places that are about 65-cm wide. (that's a standard for kitchen furniture) It's about 1 third or 1 fourth of ...

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As you may already know, I'm French, so I belong to the nation of "thin" people that Reinhard compares to the US nation. I am on the NoS diet, trying to comply to the 1 plate rule, but some discussions make me wonder whether size plates are the same in France and in USA.

So I took my fingers and ...

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Okay, I've been on holiday for 2 weeks now. One to go. The first week was a bit tricky, so I did not make it green.

I got 1 mid-week chocolate event last week.
I could exercise (walk) everyday.
Twice, I could not wake up with the gillette system: The fact that I was on holiday and I could sleep in ...

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Friday 7/27 :
NoSDiet : SUCCESS
Exert : SUCCESS
Morning praise : SUCCESS
Gilette clock : SUCCESS

And, more than that, no Cinderella trick on Friday night! Good thing.

On S days, I went a bit overboard with chocolate. My wife, also, invited her cousins on Saturday night, and she made Italian ...

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Me too, but it does not happen that often to me. (It used to)

NoS is no magic. Binges won't disappear just because you undertook NoS. The diet is rather cool, and not having binges is a matter of habit. Just say "I screwed up" and then, work to get a green on the following day. You were going "so ...

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Everything is going fine today. Now, tonight we're invited again. My plan is : stick to NoS, and no Cinderella trick.

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Thursday 7/26 : Shee-ha !

NoSDiet : SUCCESS
Exert : SUCCESS
Morning praise : SUCCESS
Gilette clock : SUCCESS
Shawshank : not monitored until further notice. (although I could do 25 minutes yesterday and 30 minutes today)

TUK

Might be good in terms of discipline. But don't lose sight of the long-term sustainability of the exercice routine. 30 minutes is alot in addition to our daily duties.

Systematic Moderation is not about weight losss, it's about establishing good, sustainable habits.

TUK

Rachelocity wrote:I was able to take a homemade cookie, wrap it up and stash it away for the weekend.

Wow. I wish I could do this... and that there be leftovers for me on the weekend.

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Anoulie : No I haven't, but I totally agree with Steve on the reasoning. Getting up early has less to do with the time you go to bed than the way you react to your alarm clock ringing. Your morning coach is awfully unreliable when it comes to getting up. Steve just tries to forcefully infuse the ...

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Chance wrote:Not sure what you mean by Mark's Daily Apple...

Does it have anything to do with the saying "An apple a day keeps the doctor away... but you have to aim sharp." ?

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reinhard wrote:Hey, I'm an American. Cut me some slack.

Sorry, did not mean to be aggressive, I was talking about myself. I was taught when I was a kid that they were organised in Olympia, so I just felt like spreading my jam...

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So, Wednesday 7/25 :
NoSDiet : SUCCESS
Exert : SUCCESS
Morning praise : SUCCESS
Shawshank : not monitored until further notice.

TUK

Hello Rachel,

Thank you for the offer :) I'm unfortunately allergic to animal hair. I let my wife buy a rabbit and a Guinea pig, but they're sleeping outside the house.

About shawshank, I identified the core problem as "not waking up early enough" which is true. I don't feel any resistance to work ...

TUK

I'd say that if you're interrupted while you are eating, you should try to protect your lunchtime and tell the guy to just buzz off come back in 10 minutes or so.

Anyway, if it does happen and you can't do anything against it, I'd say you can finish your lunch mid-afternoon (wow, that was a LONG ...

TUK

A little bit of thinking while I was walking, and a decision. The shawshank system is an utter FAILURE as is. I don't get any routine to start on the task everyday. The moment I have most energy to dig my tunnel is in the morning, but I get up indecently late these days. The evenings are a no-go, as ...

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we mere mortals, with our vastly less significant preoccupations, have no excuse.

I was not yet born at that time, but I think the laws on day duration haven't changed since. It's still 24 hours.

If this man devoted 2 hours to exercise every day, where did he take that time? We spend ... what ...

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eschano wrote: Does anyone else have these inner battles with their old diet-mentality?

Yes I do. I am a former Dukaner. It still feels holier to eat a bit more proteins and vegetables and a bit less carbs. But I, from far, don't beat myself up about eating pasta.

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eschano : Thank you for your encouragement!

About shawshank : work 14 minutes every weekday to escape wage slavery. (i have an opportunity to create my own company, and got authorization from my employer.) It feels like homework, so I am doing everything at the last minute. I want to work everyday ...

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OK, so *ahem*:

NoS : SUCCESS on Monday, but FAILURE again yesterday. I had 3 pieces of chocolate, an ice cream and a part of leftover apricot cake at 11pm. We were rather unorganised yesterday night, and the kids went to bed at about 11pm. I wanted to spend a part of the evening alone with my wife ...

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No more luck with "cmu workout". I get lots of things related to Carnegie Mellon University. When I remove Carnegie, I get Central Michigan University. But I tried "concrete block workout" and found this.

http://www.livestrong.com/article/332093-cinder-block-exercises/

At least, I improved my ...

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I guess that the real payback occurs when you can run with those. Optimus Prime style.

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And we French people complain that portions and servings get smaller and smaller with time.

TUK

Actually, Olympic Games were organized in the city of Olympia, and save the name resemblance, they have nothing to do with Mount Olympus, that's why I found the metaphor puzzling. Sorry for this... :oops: In France, we have a saying: "Culture is like jam. The less you have, the more you spread it ...

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OK, so I massied some days. I have bad news :

NoSDiet : FAILURE on Friday night. We go tinvited for the first time at some friends' place, and I could not resist the extra french fries and desert. And I used the Cinderella trick when I wanted not to. The weekend was a little hectic also, although I ...

TUK

Well, even if you're not choosey, you got the right product. Wholemilk cottage cheese is uncomparable.

Congrats for the green !

TUK

I call this "the Cinderella trick". It's perfectly by the book. I think it's a bad practice, still, but it's a helpful loophole.

Nonetheless, it must NOT become a weekly habit, and pay attention to this. It's not a normal eating behaviour, so not in the spirit of learning to eat normally.

It is my ...

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I don't remember who has this in her signatue on the forum, but NoS counts plates, not calories. I bet you won't be able to do double accounting.

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I'd say that the monthly quota (however it works) has nothing to do with it. NoS is about choosing in advance what to do with your day. Either you chose it would be a green/red day, or you chose that it would be a yellow day.

- If you chose in advance that it would be a yellow day, then you don't ...

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Mmmmmhhh.. Cottage cheese... I've got to make some one of these days. (Got to buy rennet first) Was it whole milk cottage cheese?

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Some things just take time, and lasting results do. Nine women won't ever make a baby in a month.

Stick with NoS!

TUK

We don't have any either. I made this one up...

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Because, really, don't men look at women?

Officially no, when they're married. :wink:

Personally, I picture well dressed, elegant thin people lingering over tiny little plates of intensely flavored fabulous food.

Good thing you don't talk about beret and baguette! Okay, let's do a reality ...

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Blithe morning : sorry, I may have used wrong words. I meant "when I was a student (and was staying in bed until 4pm instead of going to class)"

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Congrats!

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SUCCESS on nosdiet and exert yesterday. shawshank got another FAILURE. I can't seem to get myself into it.

Third SUCCESS on morning_praise this morning. And a first SUCCESS on shawshank, finally!

TUK

But at school I turn into a coffee-holic. So I'd like some advice, because I've heard conflicting things about coffee in general.
Coffee increases stress, it dehydrates you, causes osteoporosis in women, alters mood, etc (my mom swears it causes acne break outs, but i'm not too sure).

I've also ...

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Good luck

I have trouble hiding that I'm on a diet when I'm on one. I actually don't have the skill to sensibly refuse forbidden foods (sweets in the case of NoS). Go for it, and if you could share your secret agent refusal tricks with us, this could help !

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Blithe Morning, oolala: Did not mean to be offensive, so if so, please forgive me.

I am French, so I may not have a reliable point of comparison with United States. When I went too US, I was to young to care about these problems. (obesity and such, although I was very overweight for a French person ...

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Glad you liked my country

From Normandie to Monaco. Boy, that's quite a trip. (Well, OK, it's not Maine to California, but still...)

I love it here too. I too would like to go back to US someday. (I liked Pennsylvania when I was there. Lots of woods.)

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I just came from a month vacation in France. Noting that overall French are slimmer than Americans - although I did see some fat (not obese) French - Ii asked a few what they ate.

This is more or less a general description:

Breakfast - an expresso coffee

This is true. Although most French ...

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Another SUCCESS yesterday on exert and nosdiet. Tried to introduce two extra habits in the HabitCal : morning_praise and shawshank. Two-day SUCCESS on morning_praise. Yesterdat was a FAILURE on shawshank. Will try to do better today.

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They don't have bread or potato at dinner? I thought bread was a staple. I always heard about the bakeries where the people get it fresh for meals.

According to the sources I've read, bread is a staple at every meal -- and the children's afternoon snack.

Indeed. It's on the table. Just like ...

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Druckerman mentions that bonbons can be purchased at nearly every bakery. A friend of hers will occasionally let her child pick out a bonbon when they go to the bakery in the morning, but the child has to wait until the goÃ»ter to eat it. When at the grocery, her own children will point to cookies ...

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Oolala : not all girls in France are thin, and most of them are not. (I'm a Frenchman, I can tell) They are of various figures and sizes, and overweight and obesity are growing problems. (Not yet at the level of the USA, but the government fears that it becomes so) Of the 7 girls that work in the ...

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Luck, strength and success ! Gogogo!

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SUCCESS on Friday, although I had to use the Cinderella trick (Waiting for midnight to eat some chocolate)

Lots of chocolate during the weekend, with 3 small meals a day. I feel a bit worse than last weekend. Next weekend will be better.

I'm now headed for a fourth week of green!

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I have an idea : you need two bricks, a pair of old knickers, cement.

Glue each knicker to a brick with cement. put the shoes on, and walk half a mile everyday.

Call this system "seven-stone boots".

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Congratulations! Two weeks to go!

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Having your National Day on a Saturday is a shame. (I'm pestering. I could have used an extra day off in July) Anyway, yesterday qualified as a legitimate S-day anyway.

Good idea! Try to have coffee for goÃ»ter instead of a fruit, the thing is to try to do it regularly for a couple of weeks to see ...

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I think that only means "You're heavier than 100% of the persons from the world who are of your height and age, and that came to our site". I think they're refining the stats with every person who fill in the form.

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Grammy G wrote:Ah yes..we prattle and give advice!!

Whereas Chance just asked whether there were some men using the forum.

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I agree with the 4th meal, and the fact that you should not intentionally reduce your portions. If you wish to do so, just eat what you want to eat, by stacking everything on your plate first to make it fit.

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Yep, BMI is terrible. When I was skinny, my BMI was 23.8. And that was unhealthy...

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Yeaheah! I made 90% and 92%... Well, OK. Back to the diet...

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Well, the no snacking part is probably the most important one. Snacking is the habit that is positively linked with weight gain.

Do you exercise regularly ?

TUK

To answer the original question of the post : When I do NoS, I have 3 meals a day. When I don't do NoS (and put on weight) I have 3 meals + sweet snacks, and occasional binges.

When committing to NoS, you get to choose the number of your meals, with a strong preference and recommendation for the ...

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Yes! I went, although it was only a 35-minute walk. Still, it's a green. My minimum of compliance is 30-minutes, with possible segmentation.

Now, follow no-s until the end of day, and I'll be green for three weeks, woohoo !

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One here too.

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7/12 : SUCCESS again.

It's Friday today. Don't feel like going to my weekdaily walk during lunchbreak, but still, I have to. Today is the last day of the 3 first weeks on habit, and tomorrow is weekend, so I'll get rest then.

Yesterday night, we got invited at a friend's place for dinner. Sticking ...

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Reinhard,

What's with the "Personal Mount Olympus" name? I don't get the metaphor. (although the idea looks good)

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Don't beat yourself up for yesterday. Birthdays are S-days, after all. Get back on track. Give me a good green on Friday

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7/11 : Another SUCCESS on both fronts (nosdiet and exertion)

I am beginning to feel tired from this repeated exertion. I was able to go for a 50min walk today, but when I got back to work, I thought of not going tomorrow. But weekend is almost there, and tomorrow is my last day to complete the ...

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7/10 : Another SUCCESS on both fronts (nosdiet and exertion)

Yesterday night, at the gym, we were riding our bikes on old disco songs. That was fun! (Although the moves the coach asked us to do were pretty disco, so we felt extremely ridiculous, but WTH)

Full plate of tagilatelle and bolognes ...

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Good job! Every journey starts with a first step. You don't seem to be overweight, so probably you won't see any significant result to your change of habits. (If you do, I'd be happy if you shared) So don't get discouraged or try to do too much at once. It's not a lose-weight-before-summer race, it ...

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Exercising is a good second choice. It goes hand in hand with the diet. I think that eating moderately (not necessarily canonically healthy) and exercising are the bare minimum to have any benefit (significant weight control AND health benefits) Good luck

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Have courage for the rest of July. I hope that you're doing well. Keep up!

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Hello guys !

I'm coming back to NoS after a year off. I have started on Monday 6/25, and up until now, I had two full-green weeks, plus yesterday.

I simply decided to forge good habits again after my scales told me 91 (kg, that's precisely 200#) I'm 5'8" tall, male, 31 years old.

I also, on the ...

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Good job, 1go!

When I went to Japan for 3 weeks and a half, I remember walking lots and lots there. It was something like 8 miles a day, especially in KyÃ´to. And I did not weigh myself, but when I came back to work, what one of my colleagues told me was "Wow, you SLIMMED!"

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Okay, here are my defaults : (more or less healthy) They're in line with my being French and lazy.

Morning :
- Bread with Kiri (french melted cheese for kids)

Lunch :
- Raw tomato
- sandwich with (reasonably thin) butter and ham
- Yoghurt
- Fruits

Evening :
- Chicken Broth
- Pasta
- Pickles ...

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Good job on resisting. I find that you're doing extremely well, so keep up! :)

Don't want to be the details' advocate, but 4 meals a day is not a mod on the diet. The diet only recommends to stick to your cultural number of meals. If you like to have tea in the afternoon (and, according to your ...

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