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Hello, I just wanted to quickly thank you all immensly for your responses, here and via PM. You are all amazing and really appreciate your support and words of advice. I will reply more properly, just need to catch up with some sleep before another stressful day tomorrow, but I just wanted to say ...

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I've been slipping, and falling, and slipping, and falling, and so finally, I decided to go back to tracking. And it helped. Things got better, my good habits were coming back. And today, it all went out of the window. And eating went way out of control. I just couldn't, wouldn't and didn't even ...

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I've not been here much recently, but I find this thread very interesting, as this is exactly what I was thinking today...

This became a really long post - feel free to scroll down to *** for a summary :D

So to start from the beginning:
I started noS in May 2008 and was doing vanilla noS with ...

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I agree that there is a phycological factor to it as well and small portions might look less intimidating. For a similar reason people who feel really nauseous are encouraged to have someone cook for them, to avoid looking at food too much. Though to me that's another side of the story -
you can ...

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My recent observation in support of the noS philosophy:

Medical advice for people who are loosing too much weight (e.g. during chemotherapy) is to try to eat frequent, small meals. The reason for that is that it is easier to consume more calories per day if it is spread into smaller portions.

I ...

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And so it has been six months...

I've been meaning to check-in for a while, just to say I was doing well, noSing, exercising, feeling a bit more fit and thinner. Lots of people noticed that I have lost weight too and got interested in noS. I felt in control. Well, I felt in control on N days, my S ...

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Day 108 update

Total Ndays 60
Sdays 38
Failures 8

Weight -4.5 kg (10 lbs)

BMI from 25.4 to 23.8

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I've been definitely having too many Sdays. But still, I've lost 4.5 kg - even without too intensive exercise ...

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I'm bumping it up, because I don't want to feel

desperate, out of control...and dissatisfied, (...) bloated and queasy.

Or rather I don't want to feel even more

desperate, out of control...and dissatisfied, (...) bloated and queasy. .

There will be another weekend!!! In fact, there will be ...

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I agree with everything said above and here is my 0.01$...

If you are being honest with yourself and really doing well - by what I mean you did decrease the total amount of food you eat by noSing or you increased the exercise, then be patient and do not worry.

And just for encouragement:

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Hi - thanks for your comments!

I think it is interesting how much our bodies (and mind!) respond to hormonal cycles. And what I sometimes find a bit surprising is that we all respond differently - e.g. craving different foods on different days of the cycle (though I read somewhere that food ...

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For those who like numbers...

I think many of us observed our weight being quite stable for certain periods of time and then drop suddenly. Now that I've been monitoring my weight (on and off) for almost three months of noS, I made a following observation:

I see a sudden drop of the weight for ...

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Hi All,
Thank you so much for all your input. Although I didn't get a chance to reply, I've been following your comments and found them very helpful.

KCCC, I often think that I am not struggling for perfection, but struggling to avoid failure. But the irony in that is that sometimes in my head not ...

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I've been noSing for ten weeks now, seeing a lot of positive changes in my relationship with food, not too mention some weight loss. It's a great plan and I love its simplicity. I love the "you don't need to be perfect" aspect of it.

But this is what I realized this morning...
I am really stressed ...

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I also found there was boredom eating, tired eating, excited eating, angry eating, overwhelmed eating, resentment eating ... blah blah blah Blueskighs

Hi Blueskights, I've been definitely going through all of those... I think for some of them, coping has become almost effortless for me as well ...

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I had an awful day eating-wise yesterday. Fell into my old trap - non-stop eating triggered by overeating.
When I was starting noSing I used to have this problem that once I overate, I just couldn't stop eating. Then - dreading the "after" moments - I developed this fear of overeating and started ...

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Hi, I had the same problem and now I follow someone's advice (I think Betty's) to set up a 'no Binge' HabitCal.
Any S day or a red day, gets a "noBinge" green if I was reasonable (ie had a small slip up or didn't go on a binge) or a red if things went out of control.

I think the idea behind the ...

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One more funny thing I realized though is that I have to deal with every of those triggers separately.
When I was starting noS, I was feeling really down. With a lot of struggling, gradually I managed to overcome/decrease my urge to eat when feeling down. With every new situation though, I feels ...

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If it wasn't for noS, I would be having now a second piece of cake today, some cookies (and a muffin?) yesterday and lots of chocolate on Wednesday (maybe some cake too).

Instead I'm having a glass of water and a coffee, and another green day. But I am really, really struggling.

I'm not ...

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I quick update after I've been quietly noSing away from home.
Day 71.
Lost so far: 3.6 kg = 8 lbs! (BMI from 25.4 to 24.2) [/color]
And I've cut a new notch in my belt too! That's down 4 notches!
And I'm no longer struggling between the meals! I still sometimes fancy something sweet, when I feel ...

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Ok. So this is a weird question, but do you ever feel you miss snacking?

Thereâ€™s been a lot of threads and thoughts about all the benefits of not snacking: you save money, time, rebuild a healthy relationship with food, enjoy your meals more and lose weight at the end. And I am experiencing and ...

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It is really weird but in some ways I think like I'm losing a friend - it used to be so often I would turn to food when feeling lonely, sad, tired or upset. And in some ways it was consolation. This few minutes of pleasure. An immediate gratification.

And now, I haven't lost an impuls, but it no ...

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Hi jaob,

I was actually in quite a similar situation this week. It wasn't even a party, more of an evening with a couple of friends and a table full of snacks. What I did at the end was to skip dinner and make it my 3rd meal.
I sat further away from the table with the food, asked them for a plate ...

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Thanks Blueskighs!!! It's always good to have you around with your support and lovely meal ideas!

This is my post from two days ago that never got posted...
new goals.

I feel like having little goals makes me more motivated. So these are some scale and habit goals for the next three months. It ...

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Hey guys!
Thanks a lot for all your responses! I am really glad if my post did help someone even if a little bit - there's been so many times when your support has helped me with getting back on track that I couldn't be grateful enough!!!

Hope you're all doing well - I am working hard towards my ...

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Hi Gingercake,

I actually think Bettys's system is great! I stole the idea after she's shared it on some other thread (thanks Betty!) and find it really helpful. I now use the no binge HabitCal for my Sdays and red days. (It helps me a lot to stay reasonable on Sdays too)

When I had my first slip ...

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THANK YOU ALL! THANK YOU REINHARD!

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This noS system/diet/thingy - it is way beyond ridiculous!

I am actually losing! I managed to stick to it for 38 days! I reached my short term goal planned for June 21st! I know it might still jump up, but I haven't really believed that I would see the number 72.x kg on my scale... ever???

So this ...

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reinhard wrote: But snacking is more like a nervous tick, scratching an itch.

How funny - I'd never think two of my worst habits - snacking and scratching - will get put together in one sentence!

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I've not checked-in in ages, but I'm still around, still noSing - actually - I'm finding it hard to believe that I am on day 35 already!!! I didn't really think I'd last that long!

I'm still having way too many red days (and NWS days too). I still sometimes have my emotional eating sessions on ...

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Hi Jay

I haven't really realized about 3rd and 4th weeks being crucial, but now that I look back at my progress chart it is when I had my biggest doubts, slip up and jump in weight.

Somehow I managed to get back on track (reading all the advice on forums and the book helps me a lot) and since ...

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Blueskighs,

Thanks - you're very right! Being able to keep going after a failure is probably way more important (and difficult) than just being able to start a new commitment! Hopefully in few weeks I will have less and less "falling off" incidents, but for now I just need to make sure that I don't ...

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If I were to eat all carbs my blood sugar would rise and I would become ravenous

Do you guys think carbs might trigger you to binge? Especially things high in refined carbs? Maybe they are just too easy to digest, hence it is so easy to eat way too much?

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ok. so it was a noS FAILURE , don't binge FAILURE .

But in some way it was also a SUCCESS .

Normally this is how it goes:

bad emotions = food = = bad emotions = more food = bad emotions = more food = bad emotions = more food = bad emotions = even more food!!!

But I managed to stop. Not quite ...

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Hi rose, I really like that statement:

Don't stuff yourself with snacks when a good meal is forecast. Do forecast good meals on S-days to curb Sweets and Snacks wildness!

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So there it is:
Now I am feeling heavy and bloated:

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and soooooo stupid!!! [/b]

[edit 2 h later]
Ok. I have started binging again. It was definitely not a single plate no sweets breakfast. It was more like several breakfasts ...

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FAILURE [/color]

I was doing ok until dinner. I did really want some comfort food really badly in the afternoon, but managed to resist it. Then after dinner I went out and slipped. It wouldn't have been too bad. Shared a small dish with a friend. But then I got back home and binged, binged, binged ...

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It's DIFFICULT, but I'm finding different ways to deal

Maybe this is the key thing - to acknowledge it is difficult!

I think in some ways it gives me the energy to deal with it. In the past, I would often say to myself, I won't eat when I'm not hungry=I won't eat because I am stressed/sad/tired ...

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Well - I might be slowly steadily gaining weight

, but... I've just cut an extra notch in my belt! That's two notches down since the start! yey!

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I think I agree with you Betty. I think with noS I am definitely getting better in recognizing emotional eating, but recognizing it is often not enough to stop me. Especially on Sdays...

But I like the quote from the article:

Don't try harder, try different.

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oh boy, oh boy, seems like I'm slowly and steadily... gaining? :roll:
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Well, no need to panic yet, I guess, but maybe I have to be more careful about my Sdays. For now I'll try to focus on more exercise - that can't hurt ...

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biggest losers on this program

I've never thought I would actually want to be a loser!!!

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So yesterday I went all the way into

CAN'T WORK ... TOO BUSY EATING!

and "I feel so sad, I might just keep eating to stop me from thinking".

Blah. Awful blah. Sadly, I can't even put a positive spin on it and say that it taught me something. Maybe it was yet another proof for " It doesn't help ...

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A seriously unacceptable failure to remain civilized on an Sday

What can I say

. Tomorrow is another day...

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Hi whitway!
You can edit your signature in your profile settings.

To insert a link you need to type this:
[url=http://address]name of the page[/url]

Hope that helps!

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Hi Jill - it is crazy how powerful those habits are!!!
I have just finished my breakfast, but because it's an Sday hence the rules are relaxed and because I have to write a couple of e-mails I've been putting off forever, I since had a couple of snacks without really realizing that its the habit ...

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I have never heard of a prison where they overfeed inmates as a punishment.

On the contrary, they are starved.

I guess starving people is cheaper and technically easier than overfeeding them! :wink:

I have a suggestion: next time you want to punish yourself hit the floor, give me 50 pushups ...

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Hi Moxie!
If you made Friday as your special day then it's not really a noS failure! Even a crazy day is still and S day!!!
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Right. So don't be an idiot is this weekend's challenge!

Once again thanks a lot for all your support and advice. I feel like despite my brain and body both being very resistant, I am learning and my habits are improving slowly.

Noel maybe my brain hasn't clicked yet on how to apply the "my ...

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OrganicGal, I'm really hoping it isn't indeed!!! :D

So today is an Sday. And I am planning on being a good girl :wink:. No snacking between meals. No emotional eating. And yes of course - it doesn't mean no treats, hehe. In fact, I had a small croissant with my breakfast already and it felt great ...

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Hi Betty,
I actually love your idea and decided to apply it to my red days and S days.
This way it will help me to distinguish good S days from bad S days and slip ups form complete failures. And will indeed be a good motivation to stop thinking:
oh, well, I already blew it. A failure is a failure ...

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Hi Moxie!
Welcome to noS! I've not been here too long myself, but I do think it is a great system!
Thanks for your post too - I did notice before you were talking about emotional eating here and I feel like I could totally identify myself with what you say:
I became much more AWARE of what I was ...

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Hi guys - thanks a lot for the support and your strategies!

I did manage not to go on into a huge emotional binge yesterday and considering how tempted I was and the opportunities I had - friend's birthday - lots of cakes, I think I did a an ok job and I am really happy about it.

I have been ...

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I feel hungry I feel sad I feel like I want to stay in bed whole day today and stuff the emptiness I feel inside me with food.

I know I am actually not hungry physically. I know (??) food won't make me happier. But yes - I am so used to making myself feel better with food. And now that I took that ...

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I am going to be brief for now, because I have to get up early tomorrow, but THANK YOU ALL so much!!! You don't know how much I appreciate your replies and comments!

At the end, with the new positive approach I decide to call this day a SUCCESS day:
after all the only rule/suggestion for an Sday is ...

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I think at a time, I actually feel like it IS my choice: I know I will make myself feel worse. I know it I am not enjoying the food I am eating. Maybe I could (?) make myself stop, but I don't want to, because I don't see the point. Because I don't feel like it is (I am?) worth the effort... I know ...

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Hi guys - thanks a lot!

I think what bothers me most is that when I get myself uncomfortably stuffed (including the stomach ache!) that's when I can't stop eating :roll: I really don't quite get it, but I've done it several times. It's like once I'm past the limit, there are no more limits...

I ...

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Ok, today is an S day - I know we can "get away" with eating too much. I know that whether I'll eat a peach as a snack or a whole chocolate cake it will still be a yellow day.

I also know I shouldn't be an idiot, but I am.

How do you STOP?

There was a good thread on binging/self-punishment ...

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Saturday:
BAD THINGS:
-Yesterday wasn't a good Sday. Too much food. None of it made me feel great, and I feel like enjoyed my N day meals way more. Maybe the ice cream was nice, but then I then it felt like the portion was way to big :( Somehow meals taste better when you eat them on empty stomach ...

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Hi Betty,

I am only a beginner and I do worry about the same thing - that I won't have enough will power to keep it going. Especially that I am feeling a bit low at the moment and the next few months will be quite stressful at work...

I think for me the key to make it work (or to at least to make ...

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Hey Shirls! I think this is why I still hesitate whether to tell people about my noSing and that's why it is definitely good to have people here who understand!

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Together we're stronger BrightAngel!

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I feel like I should add - Reinhard - you are a genious and we owe a lot to you for making noS public and giving as a place to share our worries and successes. It is the logic of noS that attracted me to it - it is your and everyone else's support that keeps me going!!!

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I couldn't agree more - you made a difference in our lives! Thank you for that!!!

PS I finally bought the book too!!!

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I'm with you Jill - I'm actually slightly concerned I'm developing some sort of discussion boards addition. I keep checking it several times a day, so at least when I can enter those pages with an actual aim of ticking a box, it feels a little more justified

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I think there are two legitimate camps of no-essers: minimal weighers (once a month or so) and scientific weighers.

I guess maybe I am a scientific weigher then. I actually enjoy observing how my weight changes during the day. In my peak moments, I have weighted myself before a meal, then ...

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To all of you who are just starting and who have been here for a while, who are doing well and who are struggling, who are losing fast and who take a while to start losing - thank you all for sharing your experiences!

It would be so much more difficult if it wasn't for all of you!!!

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noSer - thanks a lot! The thread came really useful yesterday! There was a little party at work and I left it without a single snack! (and weirdly I was standing there not wanting :shock: :shock: :shock: to have a snack)

Day 12 today!

Good news:
- lost about 2 kg (4 lbs) - my weight now: 74.2 kg ...

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I had a dream about scales!!! Someone was demonstrating to me why some scales are more accurate than others!!!

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oh boy, that was long...

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Hi Jill
I've been noSing for about 11 days only so I know I am not a person you would like to see an answer from. So all I can try to contribute is a little optimism that I started to develop in this time.

Since before Easter I've been eating sweets every day and couldn't stop. I kepts saying to ...

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I am totally rebelling too!!!

As long as I manage to stay in the healthy range of weight and stick to some rational way of eating, no binges and so on - I think I will actually be satisfied. And I truly believe noS is the way to reach that.

Of course I would love to be closer to my "ideal weight ...

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I don't know about the days yet (have not been noSing long enough to see patterns), but I am always most hungry 1-2 hours after lunch and dinner...

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Just wanted to add one thing: I guess all my doubts come from the fact that it all sounds just too good to be true

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Hi all,

I am on my 9th day now (so far only the last three days on habit) and I am loving it so far. I can definitely relate to all those things you say about how your attitude to food changes. I'm getting better in controlling my hunger and even more importantly distinguishing hunger form boredom ...

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I know - I wish I could engrave that in my brain. Once and for all!

The amazing thing is that it is 4 hours past my lunch and I am not feeling hungry and not feeling like snacking!!! Even though I am working from home today, which means sitting in the kitchen, next to the fridge and if I did snack ...

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And it was close - feeling tired, having period, needing something nice. Desperately. Something like a nice piece of cake.

But then I thought, isn't really going to make me feel better? I took an ibuprofen instead. Spent some time on the sun. Had a skinny cappuccino. Did half an hour of productive ...

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I couldn't agree more - I only wish I could get addicted to writing my report... or cleaning the house... I wonder if someone told me I can never ever touch any house cleaning products in my house, I would start asking my friends to let me clean their homes...

an update:
1) survived a second green ...

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I am really sorry about your grandfather too :(

About cravings - just about the only thing that works for me is distraction.

See a link about white bears (!) http://www.rice.edu/sallyport/2004/spring/whoswho/whitebear.html

â€œ These observations suggest that attempted thought suppression has ...

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I was eating quite a bit of sugar just before I started, and for the first few days I had headaches, which I think were because of the drop in sugar levels in my body. But after a couple of days of "withdrawal" it's all good :)

Yesterday though, I was craving apples! Really badly... But after my ...

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I didn't even realize I was a scale addict until recently. Now I had to hide it, otherwise there would be no way to keep me away from it (I must have developed there a good habit - yesterday was just about to step on it when realized it wasn't there!!! :wink: )

But it is actually surprisingly ...

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1) I feel like I'm trading addiction to food into addition to the discussion groups

2) I can't wait for developing a habit - at the moment, I keep thinking about my next meal. Perhaps even more than normally, since I know I can't have anything till then. I have just had breakfast, so obviously I am ...

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Hi Blamey - thanks for encouragement! I guess it is a bit hard to tell in the beginning whether it is your body just used to snacks or whether my portions could indeed be bigger when I cut down on snacks. I've been snacking quite a bit recently, so I am sure my body has gotten quite used to a ...

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And it wasn't quite as bad... I had some coffee and by dinner time I was actually ok! It was an early dinner though for me, as I wasn't at work today. Tomorrow might be more tricky...

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oh boy, I do hope it gets easier because I am really really hungry.
I somehow don't even feel like snacking, I just wish I could make the hunger go away because it is distracting and annoying :roll:
Maybe I need to make my lunches a bit bigger as I am used to eating a salad or a soup for lunch ...

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15 min until lunch! I am starving!!!
I went swimming though and I am looking forward to my lunch!

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Today it feels like no scale is more difficult than no sweets.. .

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Hi all - thanks so much for your replied. And 3aday - I love your post.

I've heard about noS first time a week ago and decided to give it a go. And ok - so far - I have not been as successful as one may wish, but I do feel like my approach to food is changing.

It's a bit like a difference between ...

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I found an interesting link:
http://www.medicinenet.com/script/main/art.asp?articlekey=56254

quote:
The truth is, the more times a day you sit down to eat a meal or snack, the more opportunities you have to overeat; this can be a serious problem for some people. If you are someone who has a ...

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Hi Resting!
Thanks for your message. I definitely agree with you. Once you break the rules once it is more easy to break them again and again without noticing.
I have decided to try to apply the no snacks rule to S days too for now, because once I start I find it hard to stop. Hopefully a nice ...

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Thanks for your posts! I guess my eating habits are a bit like a one long meal indeed.

So hopefully it will end up working for me:
- I do believe that it makes perfect sense
- I know I actually feel way better when I don't snack.
- and at the same time hopefully knowing that I can sometimes let ...

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I definitely think all the concepts are great. And that once the habit is developed it does get easier. And I am definitely going to try.
I do worry though about this moment, just before it is a really well rooted habit, when it becomes less new/less exciting, when we feel down and miserable that ...

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I am just a beginner... Wondering how long people last...

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I think it's really cool ho noSing makes you realize where your worst food habits are. On any traditional diet you eat little and feel hungry - which feels expected as "yes of course I am hungry after all I am only eating no carrots and celery".
But on noS it feels a bit different. It is not to say ...

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Hi,
I am new to this whole "bussiness", but quite intrigued indeed. I decided to start four days ago and so far no greens on my calendar.
BUT I actually still feel quite proud of myself (huh)
My slip out were:
a square of chocolate on day 1 (otherwise, small balanced three meals)
half a square of ...

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