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Bushranger

I'm bowing out of all discussions here. Having a differing opinion is only welcome on this forum so long as you still endorse the touchy feely pity party mentality when it comes to accepting personal responsibility for failings. Anything I screw up, I AM RESPONSIBLE FOR, end of story. Be that ...

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Does anyone else think that this sort of response is, um, a little un-No-S-ish?

You do realise No S is only a diet ideology right? If you are going to start challenging people's differing opinions and statements in that kind of way you are treading mighty close to cultism or fanaticism. I donâ ...

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Please feel free to actually read what I was responding too. Are you endorsing fanaticism/cultism or hypocritically choosing to overlook it in favour of your friend?

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Your statement is bunk, it's easy to get healthy foods if you choose to get them.
Does anyone else think that this sort of response is, um, a little un-No-S-ish?

You do realise No S is only a diet ideology right? If you are going to start challenging people's differing opinions and statements in ...

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Which is entirely my point. Most of them go belly up as soon as they reach some arbitrary goal because they have nothing to spur them on anymore. This is why I say they should never be more than milestones along the way and not the primary goal.

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Surely you all understand that being required to think of what food you should eat instead of being spoon fed like a baby is a bad thing? And the weekends with being allowed a free for all, well thatâ€™s just asking for trouble since you could never expect anyone to have self control of anything ...

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Your listed points are good ones Gia. If you keep those long term important thoughts in mind than you will do well with No S. Good stuff.

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Bushranger, it's not as easy as one would think to eat healthy in the U.S, especially if one is low income or has limited options in where you shop for food.

Australia is a mini-USA. Your statement is bunk, it's easy to get healthy foods if you choose to get them. It's just people choose not to ...

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^ I think the most likely reason is the garbage most western vegetarians consume.

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I guess I struck a bit of a nerve with some of you. As much as I don't want to hurt any of your feelings, you'll never convince me that 9 out of 10 people are fat for reasons other than their own poor choices. I don't give non-existent BS as excuses in my life so I guess I find it hard to tolerate ...

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If you really gained 10.5 pounds in one week (and it wasnâ€™t all water) and believe it was on healthy food, albeit in large portions, you are delusional. You need to be honest with yourself if you want any chance of success on ANY diet long term.

Your goal is completely unrealistic too and the ...

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Typical anime, they always have to overdo everything. I do doubt the ability to swing that in a way that has any semblance of a sledgehammer style blow.

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Too picky, be a bit more relaxed about it all and simply consider if it's a reasonable plate of food or excessive. Everything else is unnecessary complexity.

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^ That is incredibly disciplined and one of the best successes I've read to date. Awesome job.

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I've not read Kessler's book yet, but I think straightening out eating habits, at least or maybe especially the food part of it, isn't all that easy. If you pay attention to the media and advertising, etc., you can think you're doing well while not doing well at all. People don't know what good ...

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I am getting flack from friends for working out (I do a combination of dancing and weight work) as a useless waste of my time especially since the article came out. Plus G. Taubes also writes that exercise makes you hungry and probably should best be avoided if you are trying to lose weight. He is ...

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As for the HABITCAL I definitely plan on using it on a daily basis long term .... it'll be a great tool even in the maintenance phase.

I think I'll keep using a habitcal type system for a long time also. I've developed my own version on an excel spreadsheet that includes monthly goal tracking (eg ...

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Yeah I certainly wouldn't run barefoot anywhere but a sporting field.

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I feel I have developed the habits and discipline I need to further my life and achieve my goals and milestones. HabitCal and the daily check in have been instrumental in this but are now simply not required anymore.

This is Bushranger signing off on the daily check in.

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That's a lot of things not going too well for you Harmony. I'll see if I can offer some help and address each part individually.

Today started out with terrible sleep, then progressed to crying in Walmart, a pizza that came with pineapple instead of pepperoni...
The sleep alone may have caused ...

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I'm fairly sure Popeye's forearms were tumours.

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KCCC, short term goals are great, don't get me wrong. People should set milestones to achieve. My entire point has been that these alone don't work long term because by their very nature they have an end and once that end is reached most people lapse back into their old ways. This is the exact ...

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It all sounds like sugar water.

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Don't be antagonistic; it could be construed as your concept of black and white thinking.

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Unsurprisingly, you've taken black and white to mean judging others and thinking you are right and others wrong. Little wonder people don't get it and prefer to be stuck in the "what ifs" of grey instead of the "bigotry" of black and white. I can't be bothered explaining it.

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Welcome aboard. First step would be to listen to Reinhard's podcasts. Reading the book would be next.

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It's like they don't value their own health and wellbeing enough to be a sufficient reason and therefore require something else. I think this lack of self worth is one of the main driver for their weight and health problems in the first place.

I don't think it is that simple, but I don't have the ...

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Welcome to the forums. Good to have you here.

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Use whatever seems suitable. You will be able to tell with your own eyes if your servings are gluttonous much better than we can over the internet. Trust your mind, if you are honestly at ease with your portions stick with them, but if you have a niggling thought "hey that's a lot of food" I'd look ...

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It's here:

http://everydaysystems.com/bb/viewtopic.php?p=63957

and another sort of quote thread:

http://everydaysystems.com/bb/viewtopic.php?t=3883

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If I had my way every owner of every dog off a leash (with the exception of specific no leash zones) in public would cop a $1000 fine on the spot and repeat offenders would lose their dogs. It's utter BS that people have to contend with this kind of rubbish on a daily basis in nearly every town in ...

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Agreed. TingTing's idea of vain isn't really what I was thinking either. Nor does it match with the dictionary definition. The excessive and superficial feel to it is the key.

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I'll take something in between and be nicely well rounded.

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Also, if you make sweet tea by the gallon is it possible to consider your consumption excessive?

BR, sweet tea is an institution in the American South. The ONLY way to make it is by the gallon. I'm sure KCCC and others can more fully explain That Nectar Which Is Sweet Tea.

As a Yankee, I've ...

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15/8/2009 Saturday:
Evening Luddite FAILURE - Stage 2 (TV and the Internet off at 11pm). Massive failure. Had friends for dinner and consumed too much food, alcohol and caffeine. Went to bed at 11pm but couldn't sleep so got up at 12:30am and watched a movie and sports until 3:40am.
Urban Ranger ...

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I've read a lot of evidence to suggest bare foot running on good grass tracks is a big step toward keeping yourself injury free also. Something to do with how it strengthens the feet and ankles while at the same time promoting correct running style. Apparently most supportive shoes actually ...

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If you look up the literature on "calorie restriction" and "intermittent fasting", it's actually an exceptionally healthy thing to do.
Indeed, but only when it's moderate, controlled and sensible. Given the nature of this thread it's highly unlikely it would be in this case. I would rather we don ...

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DON'T SKIP MEALS!

Thank you, that is all.

Seriously, skipping meals is the road to ruin for most people. If you miss a normal meal time, 9 times out of 10 you push your hunger too far and more than over compensate with out of control portions come your next meal. That's assuming you even make it ...

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Coffee never made anyone fat. All the sugar, milk and cream plus the half a dozen biscuits that goes along with the coffee on the other hand....

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The pain in my foot went away and I was happy. Now I've gained weight again. I'm trying to re-motivate myself to lose weight. It's very difficult for me because I've always been a person with very little vanity and I've never done anything healthy beyond taking vitamins. I know I should lose weight ...

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14/8/2009 Friday:
Evening Luddite SUCCESS - Stage 2 (TV and the Internet off at 11pm).
Urban Ranger SUCCESS - 30 minutes.

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It's always good to see the word spreading across the Internet.

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Good luck with that walk.

I think you are right, too much planning and overly ambitious ideas of grandeur. All or nothing is a bad way to be.

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Nichole, your friend is a good example of that external motivator requirement. Your motivations are the exact core of what I'm talking about though. Your own personal health and fitness, it doesn't need an external driver for you. That's a good place to be mentally. :)

I donâ€™t see it as being any ...

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I'm not sure it's fair to blame it on being people being "lazy" and lacking "willpower" -- it's not particularly normal to eat a drastically restricted food plan for the rest of one's life, and those drastic restrictions tend to produce disordered eating.

Correct, it's not normal to be ...

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More amazingly, I've actually enjoyed it. A bit of a surprise. I used to fall into the "I'll run only if chased by a bear" camp.

Haha! I subscribe to that philosophy too. I must admit I am interested in this couch to 5k program since it seems to be working for all us average Joes and Joettes. I ...

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I have noticed on the forums and people in my own life who often comment about needing some goal or reason to lose weight and without one they fall off the wagon, stop trying and put the weight back on again. This perplexes me somewhat as the reason to lose weight and be trim, lean and healthy ...

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We are a "add nothing to the burger" family except pepper and garlic salt. We use 85% lean chuck. Anything leaner than that it's too dry.

Indeed. One big problem with these lean beef burgers is a lack of fat to bind the patty. Going too lean (which is the trend these days) and not adding anything ...

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wosnes wrote:It falls when it falls. No bonus S day.

That sums it up perfectly.

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13/8/2009 Thursday:
Evening Luddite EXEMPT - Stage 2 (TV and the Internet off at 11pm). Boxing finishes at 12 midnight and I promptly went to bed straight afterwards. The actual days of the week that boxing is on seems to change often but it's usually the same time slot. It's still only once or ...

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Whatever happens, do not get stuck in the "I must make mods" mindset. People often seem to run for mods when they start to fail instead of taking the failures as part of the learning process. You are doing quite well if you look back on your progress so far.

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So in other words, balanced moderate food and exercise? Wow how insightful. /sarcasm off

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The Shovelglove aches go away within a week as you get used to "manual labour" every day. Just don't overdo it to begin with. A lot of people, myself included, started with 5 or 7 minutes and built up to 14.

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Meat is hideously expensive in Japan. I think you will find he buy his 2 weekly serves in 100g packs. At any rate, it's not important. What I was referring to was he eats quite healthily and moderately but is quite relaxed about it all and like all people who aren't diet nutters he's got better ...

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The way most BMI is measured opens it to a lot of variables which inevitably produces mixed results of dubious accuracy.

The cheapest way to be reasonably accurate in bodyfat % is one of those scales that do body composition with the electronic foot plates. My wife and I have one. You input age ...

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Yet another "Well duh!" moment in Time (pun intended) . Their more recent articles are really starting to lack depth. Is it just me or is that magazine slipping?

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Thanks for the kind comment Marc. That's great news to hear about the weight going back down to 198 like that. I've got no doubt you will meet your targets on the dates you have set.

Regarding the suspected fluid retention, I hesitate to recommend how to proceed as the treatments vary depending on ...

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12/8/2009 Wednesday:
Evening Luddite FAILURE - Stage 2 (TV and the Internet off at 11pm). I was really wired tonight and had a few things on my mind. Surfed the net a while and went to bed around 12:15am. This is probably my most significant failure to date since starting, not due to the time but ...

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I am like you Marc in that I dislike people using excuses (and often non-existent ones) for failings. It's not made any better by our society frequently endorsing this type of behaviour. That kind of attitude never brings success.

Your comments about that marathon runner are a perfect example of ...

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Well you are certainly eliminating any variables. I'm thinking it's likely to be fluid retention most of the time for those rebound days where you jump 2lb or so.

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I'm not sure why or how that works for you but since it does then might as well use it I think. I find if I wake up at 6:30am I am totally broken for the day but if I get up at 7am (which has been the time I've gotten up most of my life including all my school years) I am fine.

I agree that the ...

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His diet is a little too sparse for my liking but I can see a few trends in it that match up with the usual habits of bluezones. Some of his thought process matches with what occurs in the bluezone cultures also.

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I agree. Anyone with some semblance of intelligence knew this stuff since the beginning of time, real time that is, not the magazine.

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Do you weight at the same time under the same optimum conditions? That is, first thing in the morning, after you wake up and go to the bathroom but before any food or drink?

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My wife and I often eat stews and other dishes with a mix of beans, lentils and the like instead of meat. Meat for us is probably 4 days a week and that is counting all meats types (fish, chicken, red, white, etc).

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I would suggest using Kyolic garlic instead. It's much easier to take in that liquid form and doesn't seem to bother your stomach as much as raw garlic. I find if I consume large amounts of raw garlic I feel quite ill in my stomach.

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I've done a lot of sleep research and experimentation personally. Shifting around the hours I sleep and trying Buckminster Fuller's Dymaxion sleep schedule (30 minutes of sleep about every 6 hours, for a total of 2 hours of sleep a day)

You actually do that!? I think I'll leave it there. Good ...

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I'm kind of amazed so many people didn't know this already. I've known weight loss/control was 80% diet / 20% exercise for years now. (Percentages are rough but pretty accurate).

I know your exercising is helping Marc and itâ€™s awesome, but the control of your diet is a larger portion of your ...

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walkerlori wrote:I completed my steps...squeaking by with 10050. I'm working out of town and had to pace back and forth in my hotel room to get the magic number!

You're still a machine. Now THAT is determination to succeed. Congratulations.

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That's great news on the greens. Keep up the good work and you'll be habitually NoSing before you know it.

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Top notch job on the family Janie. That's great to hear.

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I am starting to think that with the way your weight is fluctuating this last week or two that either your scales are faulting and need replacing or you are very sensitive to fluid retention.

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11/8/2009 Tuesday:
Evening Luddite SUCCESS - Stage 2 (TV and the Internet off at 11pm).
Urban Ranger SUCCESS - 31 minutes. I had to go for my walk in the MORNING today since my afternoon was totally booked out. My determination to fix my cardiovascular fitness coupled with not wanting to see a RED ...

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Another interesting food revelation I was told some years ago is that cooked tomato is much better for you then raw. Cooked tomato showed a marked increase in a number of important antioxidants and has been linked with a substantial decrease in the risk of prostate cancer.

Actually now I start to ...

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I think I will aim for Saturday to return to the gym and see how it goes. I have heard that some people are out for a month or more after a kidney infection.

That is definitely smart to play it careful and monitor it. Kidney infection is no joke, that organ is make or break in the grand scheme of ...

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That's great news. Well done.

It's really quite miraculous how important seeing that green and avoiding red becomes. Your comment likening it to a sticker is quite accurate. That simple child like motivation is what makes it so powerful I think.

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Thanks Deb. So far so good, perfect compliance. Woot!

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10/8/2009 Monday:
Evening Luddite SUCCESS - Stage 2 (TV and the Internet off at 11pm).
Urban Ranger SUCCESS - 30 minutes.

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Yep, per day was what I meant. You knew though. :D I always knew it was per day but for some reason I typed week. Simple typo, or perhaps it's such an obscene number my brain spaced out trying to put it together with a single day?

It's good that the guy you saw knew it was his fault and was doing ...

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Spot on Nichole.

It is true; simple mathematics proves that people won't make up for their poor diet with exercise alone. The caloric intake vs expenditure is just too great to make up easily with a bit more time on the treadmill. But a bit of common sense obviously dictates that exercise is ...

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I'm looking forward to not being able to eat sweets this coming week. For me, sweets have the tendency to replace real food. Instead of eating a normal breakfast this morning, I ate the rest of my treasures and the ice cream. Then a long time later, I ate a normal meal, which turned out to be ...

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I like it! I totally intend on being one of those "Oh you want Oreos, and Cookie Crisp Cereal.. well,TOUGH!" moms... Just like my mom was :)

That's good to hear. A bit of good old fashioned discipline always goes a long way to making children into well balanced and respectable adults. It's great ...

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That's a very thoughtful gift and an excellent way to unobtrusively spread the word. Great thinking.

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Weigh 136 this morning, ate Sonic onion rings yesterday and two pieces of angel food cake - honestly I would have preferred the cake without the gooey icing (our friend always does the fluffy icing thing) - would have loved fresh peaches or strawberries instead. The icing kinda had a shortening on ...

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My first recollection of being addicted to food and dieting was at age five when a doctor told me I should lose five pounds.

That chump should have lost his license to practice.

I agree. If indeed a child has a weight problem (with the exception of those that are already morbidly obese), the ...

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Nearly all of that weight loss will be water I suspect. Don't fret about the muscle.

You are wise to rest with sickness like this, it's not a little cold or something after all. Wishing you a speedy recovery.

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I couldn't believe how much food he ate when he was super heavy ... On a normal friday night he would have 2 large pizzas, 4 fried chicken pieces, 4 cheeseburgers, a big bowl of ice cream, 1 sub sandwich .... all by himself and in one sitting !! The take out restaurants must have seen it on their ...

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Note: Chinese food was a disappointment; because we're on a tight budget, we've really cut down on take-out food. This was a treat, to order from our favorite Chinese place. But I wasn't very satisfied with my dinner because I just wasn't that hungry after my afternoon snacking.
Maybe slowly but ...

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The conventional wisdom that exercise is essential for shedding pounds is actually fairly new. As recently as the 1960s, doctors routinely advised against rigorous exercise, particularly for older adults who could injure themselves. Today doctors encourage even their oldest patients to exercise ...

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I'd take a look at the individual brands by packaging labels, Ari. I think you will be surprised at how much sugar there is. You may find one or two particular brands that are good though.

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9/8/2009 Sunday:
Evening Luddite SUCCESS - Stage 2 (TV and the Internet off at 11pm).
Urban Ranger EXEMPT

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You are right that Weston does jump to his conclusions a little prematurely and are wise to be wary of that. I've yet to read of one recorded case of a heavy/all meat culture living longer than the western average, let alone the long lived zones such as Okinawa, some of the Greek Islands, etc. The ...

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Welcome to the forum. I'm sure you will find plenty of useful advice and make new friends here.

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I'm glad to hear the operation went well, Berry. Take care of yourself as well as your husband and don't be too tough on yourself during this hard period. If you can simply maintain things that's a huge leap ahead than simply backsliding like most people do.

The stair walking is an excellent idea ...

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Just doing my job, ma'am. *tips hat*

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Thanks KCCC. I'm not infallible though. I had to change yesterday's success to failure as I stayed up watching a late night movie. I am finding in general that the HabitCal and daily check in has made it much easier to comply with most of my goals. Much more so than if I tried without them.

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8/8/2009 Saturday:
Evening Luddite FAILURE - Stage 2 (TV and the Internet off at 11pm). I stayed up watching a late night movie until 1am. Even though it was Saturday night I really don't want to do this if I can help it. The movie wasn't even good, hardly worthy of a failure mark on my HabitCal ...

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Welcome MereyGnome. Don't be too down on yourself. I think you will find over time and with commitment you will grow stronger in your No S ways. The beauty of this is it gets easier as time goes on as opposed to harder like most diets.

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Welcome burnnotice. I'm sure you are going to love it here.

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I saw it and opted not to respond to him because I knew Reinhard would take care of it. I forwarded the heads up to him just in case he didnâ€™t see the thread. It's the fact this place is so friendly, clean and flame free that we've only had one troll in this long a time. I think we just keep doing ...

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