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Day 64 (Wed) through Day 69 (Mon. 8-31) all green or yellow days with diet, but 2 red days with Urbanbiker (however, both days that were red I got in one instead of two 15 min. workouts).

Monthly weigh-in: 143.5 -- Down 2 pounds from last month! Yes! Small changes DO lead to results! This was the ...

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The Girl Who Played With Fire, by Larrson,
but it's a sequel so you need to read
The Girl With the Dragon Tattoo FIRST.

It has really interesting characters and complicated plotlines. I guess they qualify as thrillers. The first one is about a search for the murderer of a girl who went missing ...

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Day 60: Saturday: S DAY
b: 2 slices toast, skim milk, 2 choc chip pancakes
l: veggie pot pie (Amy's)
snacks: chips and salsa, salt &vinegar potato chips
d: grilled steak, big slice of cantaloupe, more chips
dessert: toffee ice cream bar

Day 61: Sunday: S DAY b: same as Sat
l: pb sandwich, Cheetohs ...

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There seem to be a lot of teachers out there. I'm curious:

How many teachers are on the NO S Discussion board?

What grade do you teach? (I teach second)

How do you address the particular challenges associated with teaching, such as:
--lots of sugary treats and snacks at faculty meetings and ...

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Mimi,
First, SO SORRY to hear about your scary awful experience with the dog! I fortunately have never been attacked by a dog, but I have plenty of other fears and I know what it feels like to feel paralyzed with fear. I think you've made a wise decision to hold off from walking for a while. Also ...

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Day 56: Tuesday: S EVENT
Tuesday was like a "normal" day except that my husband got some potentially exciting news regarding his job and we were celebrating the last day of summer vacation (for both my daughter and me) so we went out to dinner. I had rolls before my meal, and 3 bites of chocolate ...

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Day 55: Monday: SUCCESS

breakfast: one slice whole grain toast, blueberries, skim milk

lunch: small sub sandwich (some sort of Club-type? -- free lunch for new teachers); snack size Sun chips

dinner: 2 leftover soft tacos

URBANBIKER: 15 minutes in am on exercise bike; 15 minutes in pm on ...

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DAY 54: Sunday: S DAY

breakfast: 2 slices whole grain toast, skim milk

brunch: 3 pancakes: two blueberry, one chocolate chip
Basically: grazing all day on: Grandma's cookies, Puff Cheetos, 2-bite cupcakes

Dinner: pasta with olive oil, homegrown grape tomatoes (first harvest!), cillantro ...

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Thanks! I knew I'd seen it somewhere, and it's sort of different than the catchphrase post. I copied and pasted from my new topic to the old one.
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Sow a thought, reap an act;
Sow an act, reap a habit;
Sow a habit, reap a character;
Sow a character, reap a destiny.
--William Thakeray (although I saw it written in a couple of different ways with different sources . . . )

And . . .

We are what we repeatedly do. Excellence, then, is not an ...

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Another cool site, from a blogger, advice about forming good habits (many similarities to No S):

http://www.refocuser.com/2009/06/15-way ... k-forever/

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Here's an article on habits and the brain: neuroplasticity. Very cool.

http://www.refocuser.com/2009/05/neurop ... ew-habits/

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I thought there was already a post about quotations, but I can't find it . . .

Sow a thought, reap an act;
Sow an act, reap a habit;
Sow a habit, reap a character;
Sow a character, reap a destiny.

William Thackeray

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DAY 53: Saturday: S DAY

breakfast: 1 bite of a two-bite chocolate cupcake. Just had to throw away the rest; it didn't feel good.[/color ]Then: 2 slices whole grain toast, blueberries, skim milk.

Where to even start? Had 4 or 5 (or 6?) pancakes: blueberry and chocolate chip, no syrup, at around 10 ...

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I have two that have already been mentioned:
"cold fizzy water" (Masher) -- I drink Whole Foods sparkling mineral water, lime flavored. It really sustains me for a while, and it feels like a treat.

Also, 1 cup of skim milk, especially because I'm now exercising in the late afternoon.

REALLY ...

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Day 52: Friday: SUCCESS

breakfast: 1 cup skim milk, then half a bagel w/cream cheese and an orange (faculty meeting)

lunch: turkey&cheese on whole grain bread with grapes

dinner: 2 soft tacos: small flour tortillas w/hamburger, sour cream, salsa and shredded cheese
2 glasses of Rose wine ...

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Thanks Masher. It's fun to know that people are actually reading this stuff -- because it feels just like a journal.

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Day 51: Thursday: SUCCESS

URBANBIKER: 15 min. exercise bike am, 15 min. exercise bike pm
breakfast: 2 slices whole grain toast, skim milk

lunch: turkey&cheese sandwich, nectarine

dinner: 1 ramekin of Stouffer's mac & cheese w/ salad, bleu cheese dressing

In the past few days or so I've ...

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Day 50: Wednesday: SUCCESS

breakfast: 2 slices whole grain toast, skim milk
lunch: ham and cheese sandwich, grapes
dinner: chicken panang, 3 spinach cheese wontons (Thai take-out)

URBANBIKER: 15 minutes in am on exercise bike
15 minutes in pm on exercise bike

Exhausted, ended up riding the ...

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Day 49: SUCCESS Tuesday

breakfast: 2 slices whole grain toast, grapes
lunch: ham and cheese sandwich, grapes
dinner: spaghetti with marinara sauce, cheesy garlic bread, sliced cantaloupe

URBANBIKER: 15 minutes in the am on exercise bike; 15 minutes in the pm on the exercise bike

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DAY 48: Monday: SUCCESS

Breakfast: 2 slices whole grain toast, sliced pineapple, skim milk

Lunch: half a grilled cheese sandwich, sliced nectarine, water

Dinner: broccoli pot pie (Amy's)

Thought it would be hard after my S day binging, but no. Today was ...

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DAY 47: Sunday S DAY

breakfast: 2 slices whole grain toast, pineapple, skim milk
PLUS later: 4 bites of my daughter's leftover cinnamon toast

lunch: pulled pork sandwich; chips and guacamole; cherries; come raw veggies
dessert: slice of cake
late afternoon snacking/binging: 2 bowls of ...

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Thanks. I have had a pretty decadent S day today, maybe partly based on that, and partly based on feeling horrible (allergies!) and therefore sorry for myself.

Day 46: Saturday S DAY
breakfast: half a sugar cookie (left over from what I brought home for my daughter), 2 slices whole grain toast ...

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Thanks, Bushranger!

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DAY 45: Friday SUCCESS [/color]

URBANRANGER: walked to lightrail station in am (15 minutes)
walked home from lightrail station (24 minutes!)
incidental: 10 minutes at least walking around at the convention center

NO S:
breakfast: half a bagel w/cream cheese, assortment of fresh fruit
lunch: wild ...

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Day 44: Thursday SUCCESS
URBANBIKER: exercise bike 15 minutes
This is definitely hard to do, just the 15 minutes, AND finding time in the afternoon to exercise. I would NOT be doing this if it weren't for HabitCal.
PM: exercise bike for 15 minutes
Plan for tomorrow: urban ranger: walk to the ...

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Day 43: Wednesday: SUCCESS

URBANBIKER:
a.m. 15 minutes on exercise bike
p.m. 20 minutes walking

NO S:
breakfast: 2 slices whole grain toast, sliced nectarine, skim milk

lunch: ham and cheese sandwich; nectarine

dinner: cheeseburger, chips, corn on the cob

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Thanks to all for the encouragement. I'm still chugging along, and I've started exercising (it's on habitcal).

And it IS getting easier. One big difference is that I'm able to eat a moderate amount of food at mealtime, even when I'm really hungry.

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Day 42: Tuesday SUCCESS

URBANBIKER: Rode the exercise bike for 15 minutes in a.m. Note: got in a lot of incidental exercise with walking and lifting as I put together my classroom. It's a huge building -- I'm on the second floor -- and I have to walk the loooong way around because of cleaning ...

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DAY 41: Monday: SUCCESS

First day of URBANBIKER . Glad I made it just 15 minutes this morning, b/c it was indeed difficult (exercise bike). Feel good now though. And it felt good to take the hanger off the bike and actually PLUG IT IN! :oops:
PM: Took a 30 minute walk with my dog and neighbor's ...

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DAY 40: Sunday S DAY

Breakfast: 3 or 4 chocolate chip pancakes , skim milk, green tea

Lunch: reheated Stouffer's mac and cheese

Snacking: a couple handfuls of microwave popcorn; two handfuls of sunflower seeds (in the shell)

Dinner: (at my dad's house): Enjoyed getting a Second slice of pizza ...

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DAY 39: Saturday: S DAY

Enjoyed a chocolate chip pancake with my daughter, along with the usual whole grain toast, blueberries, skim milk

Lunch: broccoli pot pie (Amy's frozen)

Indulged in my ultimate snack: buttered movie popcorn (saw Up with my daughter -- so GOOD!) significant that I didn't ...

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July was good, in terms of meeting my own challenge. I had all green days, and I ate slowly, and I ate at the table when possible (I had a training in which there were no tables to sit at for lunch -- it was on the floor or outdoors picnic-style). I was disappointed that I only lost one pound, so I ...

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I've already posted my accomplishments this month (inspired by Mimi). I came up with 9 accomplishments, mostly related to my relationship with food. My mother was a Chronic Dieter and I've had a long-term battle with emotional eating and sneaking food. NO S has helped tremendously with these issues ...

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On Mimi's model (you're such a good teacher)

List of Accomplishments in the past month:

1. LOST WEIGHT on mother-in-law's divine cooking and many restaurant meals! [one pound, half a pound? it still counts as a LOSS ]

2. Reduced by about 90% the amount of "emotional eating/binging." I have a bad ...

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Yes you are right.
I just re-weighed and went down another half pound (same thing happened last month). So I've "officially" lost one pound in one month.

It helps to look at it from this perspective: in the past (pre-No S), vacationing with in-laws would have led to a weight GAIN of at least five ...

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Just re-weighed with the result of: 145.5
Proof that: the scale can vary
and
I'm still obsessed with the scale -- it least I'm now going through a monthly mood swing instead of weekly.

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Thanks, Mimi, that helped. I just weighed myself again, and went down another half pound. Proof that it should not be the only indicator.
And truthfully, I should be quite pleased that after the number of times I've had my mother-in-law's home cooking, late dinners at restaurants of rich foods, AND ...

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I know there must be lots of posts about this, but I got tired of trying to find one. I'm feeling pretty discouraged about the fact that I've only lost half a pound in one month. I was hoping that going to a monthly weigh-in (instead of weekly) would help me to not obsess about the scale, but ...

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August 1 Weigh-In: 146

I'm feeling pretty disappointed, because that means I've lost just half a pound in a month. I knew it wouldn't be a large figure, because despite no red days I've been on vacation (so naturally eating richer foods) and not exercising. But still. Half a pound???

For any of ...

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DAY 38: (Friday) SUCCESS

Breakfast: 2 slices whole grain toast, blueberries, skim milk
Lunch: half of a Subways sandwich (soooooooooo glad that training is over) and Cool Ranch Doritos
Dinner: leftover spaghetti and meatballs with a salad

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Thanks for the reply. The other benefit of the Daily Check-In is that I know that there are people out there potentially reading it, which adds another layer of accountability without any kind of burden on anybody else. It's nice to see replys every once in a while, just to know that someone out ...

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DAY 37 (Thursday): SUCCESS

breakfast: 2 slices whole grain toast, blueberries, skim milk
lunch: part of a chicken sub from Subways(getting really sick of Subway -- free lunch); Cool Ranch Doritos
dinner: at my friend's house: homemade meatballs with sauce; couscous salad; corn on the cob

Note ...

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DAY 36: SUCCESS

breakfast: 2 slices whole grain toast, blueberries, skim milk
lunch: chicken with madeira sauce and goat cheese, crispy polenta, veggie and roll (at a nice restaurant: I've adapted the "one plate" rule in restaurants to "half the plate" when it's a large portion.)

dinner ...

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Day 35: SUCCESS
(Tuesday)

Breakfast: 2 slices whole grain toast, skim milk, blueberries
Lunch: chicken breast sandwich (Subway, didn't finish), Cool Ranch Doritos

Dinner: My mother-in-law's homemade meatballs and spaghetti, slice of Italian bread, salad with bleu cheese dressing

Comment: Felt ...

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Masher, I'm on the same page as you. It feels good, but it's definitely something I have to work on (especially in the late afternoon).

I too have had two or three close calls in which the only thing keeping me from snacking/sweets was knowing that I'd have to mark RED on the habitcal. I have a ...

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DAY 34: SUCCESS
(MONDAY)
N day
Breakfast: 2 slices whole grain toast, blueberries, skim milk
Lunch: spicy Italian sandwich (Subway); didn't finish
Boulder salt & vinegar chips
Dinner: my mother-in-law's pan fried chicken with twice-baked potatoes and salad. Amazing meal!

Note: brought home my free ...

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These are chocolate with chocolate icing from Whole Foods. They're my current favorite sweet.

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DAY 33: (Sunday) S DAY

This was not really a "gone wild" but sort of close. I did eat a lot of little two-bite cupcakes . . . maybe 6? I also had 4 or 5 chocolate chip pancakes. Lunch was fish and chips, but my portion control was good -- I got full pretty quickly. Dinner was light == pasta with ...

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DAY 30 (Thursday) SUCCESS
Pretty normal day; bagel with cream cheese for breakfast, cobb salad for lunch, black bean tacos for dinner
DAY 31 (Friday) S DAY
Today was a Special day because I knew we would be going out to a nice dinner with our friend from out of town. Decided that because it's a ...

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Today was the first time in a several weeks that I've been tempted on an N day to S nack on S weets. I was feeling very stressed and grumpy and I REALLY wanted to eat the rest of my daughter's chocolate chip cookie. The only thing that prevented me from doing so was the thought of marking today as a ...

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I was a slow eater as a child. At my elementary school, you ate lunch and then you got to go to recess after you were finished. I have vivid memories of my friends coaxing me to hurry up so that I could have recess with them. Many times, I'd eat so slowly that I'd miss recess entirely. I also ...

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DAY 29: SUCCESS

Same old, same old.
Skim milk in the morning, and green tea
Bagel w/cream cheese and mixed fruit for breakfast
Lunch: curry chicken salad sandwich, chips, fruit
skim milk in late afternoon
Dinner: rotisserie chicken, salad, some slices of nectarine

Brought the cookie and candy ...

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I've been happy with the aesthetics of the plate. It makes such a great visual presentation, to see it all laid out nicely on one plate. And it has also naturally (meaning I don't have a particular rule about it) guided me into having more balanced meals -- a good combination of fruit/veggies, carbs ...

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DAY 28: SUCCESS

All this week I have a professional development, which includes free breakfast and free lunch. So, yesterday I had a glass of milk and green tea at home, then ate half a bagel with cream cheese and fruit salad for breakfast at the school. Lunch was a chicken caesar salad which was ...

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I didn't realize that Vegan referred more than just dietary choices. I appreciate the clarification though because I am nit-picky when it comes to language. Clearly we need some new terminology.

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A couple of years ago when I was losing a lot of weight (and yet STILL not satisfied!) I told my GYN that I'd been consistently losing five pounds a month, but it bothered me that during the week I was premenstrual I either remained the same weight or gained weight. His advice: one good idea is to ...

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Just to keep myself on record: days 16 through 27 were all SUCCESS ful days. I have had Saturday and Sunday S days, but no "special" days while on vacation.

Some thoughts on No S on vacation: Mostly the challenge was maintaining no s when we had dinner at a late hour (because I was with a large ...

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I've just returned from a family vacation, and have immediately plunged into long days of teacher trainings. So I just counted out the days on my HabitCal. No reds! As I've said before, if I can make it through a family vacation on No S, then I can do No S any time, anywhere.

One reflection: I ...

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So far, so good. I've been on vacation in the mountains, so no wireless access for several days. I don't want to bother with writing up every day. Every N day has been a success, and every S day has been fairly moderate (I was a bit ill after the s'mores on Saturday but otherwise . . .)

I've had to ...

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So far it's helped tremendously to put my fork down in between each bite. I feel like right now, while on vacation with my extended family, if I can stay on No S now then it's smooth sailing when I'm back on my regular routine.

The toughest challenge is not having a routine, and being with a group ...

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What does NWS stand for? Do you mean only 2 "special" s days a month, or two s days per month period?

BTW, I love the name Kathleen so your name really gives credence to your advice. :) I named by daughter Kathleen, and by best friend from college (Kathleen!) is currently sleeping on my couch ...

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DAY 15: S DAY

Yes, yes, it was planned ahead of time, a designated s day. I had my "usual" toast and milk and blueberries for breakfast, lunch at the museum cafeteria -- one chicken taco with a couple of carrots. Dinner: BLAT again with two pineapple slices and an extra tomato.

Had a small ice ...

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Okay. I'll go with that special Friday dinner as an S event and now I'm going to officially stop worrying about it anymore. Thanks.

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I decided ahead ahead to officially mark it on Habitcal as an S day, but that I would treat it as an "s event," meaning that I ate my three meals, no snacks, no seconds, no sweets EXCEPT for the dessert at book club. Then I found myself staring at the two-bite cupcake (they're mini-size), wondering ...

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Is it okay to Trade my s days? I don't really want Friday as my permanent S day, because I usually don't go out on Fridays and on Sunday we often make a big home-cooked meal. HOWEVER, on Friday the 24th our good friend will be in town and we're going to go to a really nice restaurant. S day for sure ...

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Sorry to stray too far off topic, but does the "s-event" qualify as straying from the "vanilla no s"? I just had my first "s-event day." I will be noting it as a yellow on Habitcal, but I did follow all the rules of an N day with one exception -- I ate dessert at book club, because it's a once-a ...

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Wow, I've never heard that. I did hear someone tell me that the British mostly drink coffee in the morning and tea in the afternoon.

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Day 14: SUCCESS
Still declaring this a green day, but must confess that I had to use the "virtual plate" trick at dinner tonight. I had lunch at 3, then my evening class, then met my family for dinner at about 7:30 at a Thai restaurant. Starved! Family members kept insisting that I have a spring ...

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I was planning on skim milk. I don't drink sweetened beverages anymore anyway. I think this will solve my dilemma, which is that when the school year begins I will have an early-ish lunch time (11:30) and a late-ish dinner time (7 p.m., which accomodates my husband's work schedule). I'd like to have ...

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So milk is within the rules? I could do that . . .

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I love reading about afternoon tea in British novels, especially now that I'm a dedicated tea drinker. It seems like such a lovely ritual -- and I think that's critical, that "afternoon tea" is a daily ritual, not a matter of constant snacking throughout the day. My only temptation in terms of a ...

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Day 13: SUCCESS

Nice to be back to normal on an N day again. My huge accomplishment for the day was to NOT get popcorn when I went to the movies. This is HUGE for me! It helped that I had a perfectly lovely dinner beforehand: a Vietnamese sandwich with sweet potatoe fries.

Tonight is going to be ...

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I just got this book from the library, based on your recommendation. I love it! It's absolutely fascinating, and fun because you can breeze through the pictures, or really sit down and read more deeply. I like the stats in the back of the book about the different countries -- pounds of meat consumed ...

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Thanks! I didn't remember who coined the phrase, but I have repeated that mantra many times in my head this morning: Just mark it and move on. I already say "fence around the rule" many times to myself, mostly on N days when I'm about to nibble on something during food preparation.

It felt SO good ...

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Day 12: S DAY (gone wild)

Wow, I had been feeling so virtuous about having pretty managable s days -- until yesterday!

All the triggers were there: I went to my brother and sister-in-law's house to babysit my niece and nephews. They have loads of snacks readily available. I also had some big ...

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Thanks -- that worked.

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I started the no s diet somewhere in the last week of June. When July began, my little colored squares for June went away. When I tried to see them again by switching to June, then I lost July. Is there any way that an obsessive-compulsive type like myself can see BOTH June and July at the same time ...

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Day 11: S DAY
Breakfast: whole grain toast, skim milk, 2 blueberry pancakes (s)

Lunch: broccoli pot pie (Amy's), strawberries, small handful of chips

Dinner: tastes of cheddar cheese (s), cheeseburger, pickle, corn on the cob

Dessert (s): 3 small pieces of chocolate sheet cake (really, very ...

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Wow, that really surprised me how "unnatural" it felt to actually put my fork down. I've known for a long time that I've become a very fast eater. My lunch break at my former job (teaching in a small Catholic school) was 15 minutes. I got to the point where I could eat lunch, go to the bathroom, and ...

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Day 10: S DAY

TAILGATING PARTY + ROCK CONCERT = S DAY

I actually ate like it was an N day all day long, and then broke down during the concert and bought a bag of popcorn. Also ate a piece of chocolate cake when we got home, but it wasn't very satisfying so I only had a few bites before throwing ...

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Day 9: SUCCESS
Friday the 3rd: still on the fence about making it a yellow day. I'll make it a game day decision.

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Reneew, I had a full glass of water with dinner tonight. That helped tremendously -- I had dinner late, after sitting through a kid's birthday party at McDonald's (I LOVE McDonald's -- my weakness!)

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I made it through a kid's birthday party from 5-7ish p.m., my hungriest time of the day, politely declined the veggies and dip, the cherries, the fries, chicken nuggets (the party was at McDonald's -- home of my childhood comfort foods). When I got home I thought I'd be starved because it was almost ...

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Thanks to all of you for your advice. I do not drink very much water with my dinner so I'm ready to try that. And of course I needed reminding that my body will get into this habit. Patience!

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Day 8: SUCCESS This is my last N day for the week, because I'm taking tomorrow as an N day. It's the day before the 4th of July.

I'm still finding the most difficult part of n days to be an hour before dinner and a couple of hours after dinner. I'm trying not to ruminate too much on what my ...

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I have one more addition to my July challenge -- I WILL NOT step on the scale in the month of July.

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Does anyone else experience this? This is what I felt tonight and it's very typical for me:
I was quite hungry when I sat down to dinner. I had a pretty generous meal: creamy pasta with spinach and chicken, sliced tomatoes and cucumbers, and a small handful of potato chips (all on one dinner plate ...

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Exactly. We can't even get through the candy leftover from Valentine's, Easter and Halloween. Also, I'd probably feel better about treats for birthdays and holidays in the classroom if they were reasonably-portioned and homemade. But at my former school, the norm was to bring junky cupcakes from the ...

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Day seven: SUCCESS! Yippee! One week on "no s." I broke down and weighed myself this morning. I was 147.5 at 3:00 a.m. this morning (couldn't sleep) and then lo and behold 146.5 at 9:30 a.m. Proof that I should only weigh myself once a month. Next weigh-in: August 1. Period.

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We actually did eat BLATs. I'm hoping our tomato plants produce this summer as well. There's NOTHING like home-grown!

I'm stuck in a family in which everyone else is "naturally" thin. Even the dog (standard Poodle) doesn't overeat: she has a continuous supply of food and eats only when hungry; it ...

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I had a blt for dinner like I normally do in the summertime. Except that this time, I was starved when I sat down to eat it, so I really savored every bite. And this time, there were no surreptitious bites of one (or two or three) slices of bacon before I sat down to dinner, and no mindless dips ...

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I love seeing how many posts this has inspired. I really want to tell my former co-worker (who first ranted to me about kids and snacks) about how many responses I've gotten.

Here's my sneaky progress with my 7-year-old daughter (shhhh. . . don't tell!). She's UNDERweight, and she frequently doesn ...

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SO far I've had no problem with the plate size -- I have my daughter (7 years old) to give her unsolicited opinion. I'm so much worse on snacking and sweets. I'm still a newbie to no s (7 days tomorrow) so my goals are simple: all greens in the month of July, keep the "fence around the rule ...

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I found the No S Diet book at the library, just browsing the diet books, hoping to find something inspirational; I've been having major problems with motivation. Spent the rest of the day reading the book, found the website, and here I am.

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Mimi, thanks for the welcome. I'm really quite anxious about starting my new job. My principal told me that I beat out a lot of other candidates and he has a repuation for being pretty particular. This should make me feel really good, but instead I'm worried that I won't live up to his expectations ...

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Day 6: SUCCESS .
Yesterday was a really tough day emotionally, so I'm proud of myself for remaining firmly no s. It also helped that I had an early dinner.

The lime-flavored sparkling mineral water (no sugar) is my saving grace for the late-afternoon urge to snack. Now the sparkling mineral water ...

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Day 5: S day
I feel better now that I've listened to the S Days Gone Wild Podcast. Really, I ate this weekend that way I've been eating every day for the past several months.

Sunday: light breakfast (toast and milk), hearty brunch (pancakes, blueberries, scrambled eggs, hash browns, sausage ...

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I'm 40 years old, married with a 7-year-old daughter. I've taught third grade in a Catholic school for 14 years, and this year I'm making a big change to being a public school teacher (2nd grade). My husband also has recently changed jobs. He hated his job, so switched to one that's very exciting ...

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I couldn't have read this at a better time. My own personal Food Pusher is arriving at my house this Friday -- my mother-in-law! It's amazing how persistent the Food Pushers can be! I'll try the polite responses.

I'm a peacemaker too. Which begs the question: is the need to avoid conflict related ...

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